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Post by sawg138 on Mar 23, 2006 13:09:42 GMT -5
After an aumsing conversation, I have come to the conclusion Mig is a Gorean and doesn't know it. Though he doesn't claim them, Trisha and Angel are as much his slaves as his spells are and his women certainly are Gorean, though a bit backwards. Trisha is technically free but First Girl, a slave status while Jinx is his slave but a Free Companion by Gor standards.
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Post by Flip on Mar 23, 2006 15:25:41 GMT -5
what's a gorean again?
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Post by Nekira Sudacne on Mar 23, 2006 20:40:07 GMT -5
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Post by sawg138 on Mar 23, 2006 20:41:41 GMT -5
Boy is that an understatement.
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Post by Flip on Mar 26, 2006 12:18:28 GMT -5
my response to this blog is pretty apparent if you take it from this excerpt from the storyline of the first chapter my comic i'm writing. (i'm writing it in story form for now)
realize this is only one character's extreme one sided view, and later on in the story it will change and morph as outlooks tend to do. (it is only the first chapter after all)
If he didn’t know better he’d swear that he could feel her eyes on him right through the chimney obstructing her view. If there were many people like that in this small town, he was going to have a more difficult time than he first thought. All the better for him. His mind fell to thoughts of the irony of his situation, but he didn’t think long on it. His whole plan was based on irony. More worrisome thoughts echoed in his mind. Why the hell did he stare? What on earth had caught his attention?! She wasn’t what one would call attractive, heck she wasn’t what he’d even call female. Her stick figure frame, short fiery red hair, and rolling around on the ground in a wrestling match like she was boy... That was probably what caught his attention! The women of this age always managed to surprise him, and not in a good way. Boys no longer knew how to be men, and girls no longer knew how to be ladies. This entire side of the world is so screwed it is beyond fixing. He was sure of it. That was okay though, just enough, he had to fix only so many, just enough, and in just enough time. There had to be some strength left in the world, the question was how to draw them out. Throughout all of history there was only one sure way to do that, and luckily he had figured it out. “Just got to scare them a little.” A small smirk and then he was gone from the roof top. The small inspection of the little harbor town proved to be all he needed. Now all there was left to do was wreak a little havoc. Among this pathetic era of people, it would be all too easy.
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Post by sawg138 on Mar 26, 2006 14:06:10 GMT -5
I'm not seeing the connection unless it's that Mig and his wives aren't acting as they "ought." Or at least that they seem that way right now.
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Post by Flip on Mar 26, 2006 14:07:19 GMT -5
that was my rsonse to the blog, not to mig's wives, as far as that goes, yeah, yer definitely gor
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Post by sawg138 on Mar 26, 2006 14:12:26 GMT -5
Gottcha. Though as the blogger has said, it's what works for him, but it doesn't work for everyone.
As far as Mig and Trisha, they've always been about defining their relationship for them, not for what their society says. Otherwise Mig wouldn't have sought to buy Trisha's freedom. They're just adapting the relationship as they grow and change.
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Post by Nekira Sudacne on Mar 26, 2006 20:12:45 GMT -5
my response to this blog is pretty apparent if you take it from this excerpt from the storyline of the first chapter my comic i'm writing. (i'm writing it in story form for now) realize this is only one character's extreme one sided view, and later on in the story it will change and morph as outlooks tend to do. (it is only the first chapter after all) If he didn’t know better he’d swear that he could feel her eyes on him right through the chimney obstructing her view. If there were many people like that in this small town, he was going to have a more difficult time than he first thought. All the better for him. His mind fell to thoughts of the irony of his situation, but he didn’t think long on it. His whole plan was based on irony. More worrisome thoughts echoed in his mind. Why the hell did he stare? What on earth had caught his attention?! She wasn’t what one would call attractive, heck she wasn’t what he’d even call female. Her stick figure frame, short fiery red hair, and rolling around on the ground in a wrestling match like she was boy... That was probably what caught his attention! The women of this age always managed to surprise him, and not in a good way. Boys no longer knew how to be men, and girls no longer knew how to be ladies. This entire side of the world is so screwed it is beyond fixing. He was sure of it. That was okay though, just enough, he had to fix only so many, just enough, and in just enough time. There had to be some strength left in the world, the question was how to draw them out. Throughout all of history there was only one sure way to do that, and luckily he had figured it out. “Just got to scare them a little.” A small smirk and then he was gone from the roof top. The small inspection of the little harbor town proved to be all he needed. Now all there was left to do was wreak a little havoc. Among this pathetic era of people, it would be all too easy. Interesting comment, what are you trying to say exsactly though?
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Post by Flip on Mar 26, 2006 23:41:16 GMT -5
it means i've actually already thought about everything i read on that blog, for about a year or two now, long before this
as the remark, 'boys no longer knew how to be men, and girls no longer knew how to be ladies" hints at. i've long thought guys have been through some kind of lobotomy with our era. being masculine is being promoted as being a bad thing nowadays. i actually got insulted for being too manly in my small group of friends a while back and it got me thinking, 'when did that become a bad thing?'
i know i've wished more than once, that i coud have lived in a more basic time. i'm betting there were just as many philosophy and psychology conversations by the tent made from tree bark and furs, around the tribe's campfire, as we have today over the net, or a cup of coffee. and i'm betting both women and men took part in them.
as for the ladies line, i can't say. i'm no psychologist by any stretch of the imagination, and the character would end up accepting the women of our era a little better after dealing with it for a bit (he's from mideval times)
i do believe there is something seriously frigged up in our society, i don't care if women are submissive or not, as far as i see it, that's up to them. i just wondered when did being a 'manly' man start being the blunt end of a bad joke?
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Post by sawg138 on Mar 27, 2006 6:58:16 GMT -5
Ah. It was difficult to tell if you agreed or didn't agree, but seemed tht you took offense at the Gorean posting. And on problem today with manly men being the butt of jokes is today's professional athletes. As a society, we let them get away with being absolute morons as long as they can play. There are exceptions, but as a rule, if he's good enough, he gets a pass on academic learning. "Go play ball son, we'll sign you up for basket weaving." And yes, I'm sure some cultures had deep pholosophical discussions around the campfire. Acient Greece comes to mind, but they were the ones believing in "Sound body, sound mind." Cultures like the Vikings did have religion, but they didn't carry quite the depth places like Greece did.
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Post by Flip on Mar 28, 2006 22:56:34 GMT -5
actually i think the viking's view on life in general would be the more interesting of the two.
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Post by sawg138 on Mar 29, 2006 7:18:16 GMT -5
actually i think the viking's view on life in general would be the more interesting of the two. They did have more culture than they are generally credited with, but they were a harsh culture. They adapted to their climate. Compare Viking heaven with Greek heaven, Valhalla to Eliseum.
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Post by Flip on Mar 29, 2006 7:39:24 GMT -5
yeah, by far the viking's were the more cool of the two
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