Post by sawg138 on May 14, 2010 20:38:57 GMT -5
Nekira Sudacne: "Anyway" she grins "So leaving that pearl aside for now..." *hands it back to her*
agilbxr: *takes it and tucks it back into her bag*
Nekira Sudacne: "So where was I. Ahh yes. Have you thought any more about my previous offer?"
agilbxr: "which one?"
Nekira Sudacne: "About doing something profitable with this place"
agilbxr: "your brothel"
agilbxr: "I've thought about it, and Jeff and I have discussed it. Providing we could do it the way I think it should be run, I don't have a problem"
Nekira Sudacne: "Well, how do you think it should be run?" she asks curiously
agilbxr: "The girls all need to be free people, no slaves. They need to have the right to tell anyone yes or no. We need to insist the girls all be clean, both from disease and from drugs. We need to have a safety net for the girls along on every job, you know, a bouncer of some kind to run to the rescue. Things like that"
Nekira Sudacne: *leans back thoughtfull* "Not wanting slaves just makes it harder, and is relatively pointless besides. Look at me, do me or ringo seem like the types to force them or not protect them? The rest of the conditions I agree with, but rather or not tey're slaves has no relevence to it"
agilbxr: "it does. Regardless of if you take care of them, a slave is going to FEEL like they don't have a choice but to go along with your plan."
Nekira Sudacne: *laughs* "You spend too much time around Splurgorth slavers. Trust me, that's not a problem. That only happens when the master attempts to break a slave. of course you get a broken down person if you do that. But not all slaves are broken. Some want to be slaves"
agilbxr: "generally that is when they think it's their best option for survival. It's be a slave or have to make it for themselves. The girls here would not have to make that decision. However, I can comprimise on that. Give them the option. If they want to be free, they are welcome to stay and work for a wage, or a percentage. Or they can go. OR they can remain as a slave. But it needs to be their choice"
Nekira Sudacne: "I do that anyway. I bought Lien as a slave years ago and freed her the same day. She's becoming a whore now because that's what she wants"
agilbxr: "I don't have a problem with someone choosing prostitution, but by forcing a slave to be a prostitute, well, that's nothing short of rape"
Nekira Sudacne: "Oh I agree"
Nekira Sudacne: "The reason I want to be clear was because of Enitri. She was already offered her freedom when Elex beat Ringo in a duel, and she refused dispite having been offered the protection of an extremely strong cyber knight"
agilbxr: "as long as she is honest in her wish to remain in slavehood. We need to offer her the same choice, stay as a slave, stay and work free, or leave"
Nekira Sudacne: *nods* "You'll have to talk with Ringo directly about that, but I think he'll understand"
agilbxr: "probably. He's changed a lot since his stay in that alternate world"
Nekira Sudacne: "I agree" *sighs and dosn't seem very happy about the changes*
agilbxr: "you know, I think they are for the better. He doens't seem suicidal any more"
Nekira Sudacne: "He's not. On the other hand he's a lot more depressing to talk to now, ironically"
agilbxr: "that might get better as he gets more used to having a goal"
Nekira Sudacne: "Yea, but he dosn't need one"
agilbxr: "that's not your place to say that, it's his. He's the only one that can decide what his future holds. He feels it's necessary to find out who's attacking his people, so that is what he needs to do. You can try to stop or hinder him, but you'll only make him hate you eventually. Your best bet is to be supportive and help him however you can'
Nekira Sudacne: "He already knows who's doing it"
Nekira Sudacne: "He just wants them to stop"
agilbxr: "then he needs to stop them. What's wrong with that?"
Nekira Sudacne: "It'd involve leaving to go places and do things"
agilbxr: *rolls her eyes* "Aliza, that is life. Just because you don't seem to have any ambition other than fucking everyone you can find, doesn't mean that anyone else is like that
agilbxr: "
Nekira Sudacne: "Yes, the problem is Ringo Used to be like me. Now he's not" *sighs*
agilbxr: "nothing stays the same Aliza"
Nekira Sudacne: "It did until you came to town"
agilbxr: *sighs* "i had nothing to do with it, it would have happened anyway"
Nekira Sudacne: "Not if he hadn't gone out trying to get the Red River Boys"
Nekira Sudacne: "Which he wouldn't have if it wasn't for Heather"
agilbxr: "I had nothing to do with that"
Nekira Sudacne: "I know" she sighs
agilbxr: "but the hunting of the red river boys just sped things along. The people trying to kill off Ringo's people would have found him eventually"
Nekira Sudacne: "And we could have delt with that" *shrugs*
agilbxr: *shakes her head* "not without our help"
Nekira Sudacne: "What makes you think that?"
agilbxr: "you could have gone after Ringo on your own? In that alternate universe? Silvie wouldn't have gotten anyone there without help. And I don't know how many mages in the area powerful enough to give enough energy to make those portals"
Nekira Sudacne: "I was more refering to the fact that if we wern't doing stupid missions,he wouldn't have been captured at all"
agilbxr: *shakes her head* "you are smarter than that. They would have come and found him here, or just had him outright killed"
Nekira Sudacne: "So we can just go somewhere they can't find us"
agilbxr: *just looks at her*
Nekira Sudacne: *looks back* "We could go to Psyscape. They can sense anything coming a mile away"
agilbxr: "uh huh. I'd guess they could find you wherever you go"
Nekira Sudacne: "Well if they're that all powerful what can we do about it anyway?"
agilbxr: "we aren't powerless, especially now that Ringo is willing to fight. We can learn about them, and then stop them"
Nekira Sudacne: "If we can do that, can't we just fight them off indefinatly?'
agilbxr: "there is a good choice. Living while having to look over your shoulder all the time, waiting for the next attack. Why would you want to be a sitting duck?"
Nekira Sudacne: "I don't wnat to have to fight htem at all. it took them fourty years to track him down now. We can just move every few decades..." *sighs looking increasingly less convinced*
agilbxr: "uh huh"
agilbxr: "yeah, cause someone like you and Ringo are so discreet in your choice of lifestyles"
Nekira Sudacne: "Well we'll loose the lifestyle anyway if we go to do soemthing about it"
agilbxr: "that's what you are doing now"
Nekira Sudacne: "No, i'm trying to maintain it."
agilbxr: "ok, fine. That's what Ringo is trying to do now
agilbxr: "
Nekira Sudacne: *sighs* "ANd you expect me to be happy about ANY o fthis?"
agilbxr: "happy? No. But you can accept it and help him. Then, when you win your war, you can live your lives however you wish"
Nekira Sudacne: "Or we loose and die horribly"
agilbxr: *shrugs* "there is nothing to fear in death"
Nekira Sudacne: *looks at her like she sprouted another head*
agilbxr: "Aliza, death is just another step we take. We know there are gods and afterlives. What is to fear about going to an afterlife?"
Nekira Sudacne: "The fact that it's probablly going to suck and not be anything like what I'd like to be?"
agilbxr: *laughs, loudly* "oh my. You do need some educating, don't you. Aliza, I have a book in my room describing the afterlife for followers of Freya. Please, borrow it and read it"
Nekira Sudacne: "Uhhh...sure I guess"
agilbxr: "it will be enlightening reading, I assure you"
Nekira Sudacne: "Okay then" *dosn't seem convinced*
agilbxr: *smiles* "you will see, I promise"
Nekira Sudacne: "Anything else you'd like to say?
agilbxr: "you're the one that called this meeting"
Nekira Sudacne: *Grins* "I mostly covered it. just one question, how will you recruit if not buy slaves?"
agilbxr: "word of mouth, advertise, there are many ways to recruit"
Nekira Sudacne: *chuckles* "Well I suggest you and Jeff brainstorm. I was just going to buy some slaves"
agilbxr: "we can do that "
Nekira Sudacne: "That works"
agilbxr: *takes it and tucks it back into her bag*
Nekira Sudacne: "So where was I. Ahh yes. Have you thought any more about my previous offer?"
agilbxr: "which one?"
Nekira Sudacne: "About doing something profitable with this place"
agilbxr: "your brothel"
agilbxr: "I've thought about it, and Jeff and I have discussed it. Providing we could do it the way I think it should be run, I don't have a problem"
Nekira Sudacne: "Well, how do you think it should be run?" she asks curiously
agilbxr: "The girls all need to be free people, no slaves. They need to have the right to tell anyone yes or no. We need to insist the girls all be clean, both from disease and from drugs. We need to have a safety net for the girls along on every job, you know, a bouncer of some kind to run to the rescue. Things like that"
Nekira Sudacne: *leans back thoughtfull* "Not wanting slaves just makes it harder, and is relatively pointless besides. Look at me, do me or ringo seem like the types to force them or not protect them? The rest of the conditions I agree with, but rather or not tey're slaves has no relevence to it"
agilbxr: "it does. Regardless of if you take care of them, a slave is going to FEEL like they don't have a choice but to go along with your plan."
Nekira Sudacne: *laughs* "You spend too much time around Splurgorth slavers. Trust me, that's not a problem. That only happens when the master attempts to break a slave. of course you get a broken down person if you do that. But not all slaves are broken. Some want to be slaves"
agilbxr: "generally that is when they think it's their best option for survival. It's be a slave or have to make it for themselves. The girls here would not have to make that decision. However, I can comprimise on that. Give them the option. If they want to be free, they are welcome to stay and work for a wage, or a percentage. Or they can go. OR they can remain as a slave. But it needs to be their choice"
Nekira Sudacne: "I do that anyway. I bought Lien as a slave years ago and freed her the same day. She's becoming a whore now because that's what she wants"
agilbxr: "I don't have a problem with someone choosing prostitution, but by forcing a slave to be a prostitute, well, that's nothing short of rape"
Nekira Sudacne: "Oh I agree"
Nekira Sudacne: "The reason I want to be clear was because of Enitri. She was already offered her freedom when Elex beat Ringo in a duel, and she refused dispite having been offered the protection of an extremely strong cyber knight"
agilbxr: "as long as she is honest in her wish to remain in slavehood. We need to offer her the same choice, stay as a slave, stay and work free, or leave"
Nekira Sudacne: *nods* "You'll have to talk with Ringo directly about that, but I think he'll understand"
agilbxr: "probably. He's changed a lot since his stay in that alternate world"
Nekira Sudacne: "I agree" *sighs and dosn't seem very happy about the changes*
agilbxr: "you know, I think they are for the better. He doens't seem suicidal any more"
Nekira Sudacne: "He's not. On the other hand he's a lot more depressing to talk to now, ironically"
agilbxr: "that might get better as he gets more used to having a goal"
Nekira Sudacne: "Yea, but he dosn't need one"
agilbxr: "that's not your place to say that, it's his. He's the only one that can decide what his future holds. He feels it's necessary to find out who's attacking his people, so that is what he needs to do. You can try to stop or hinder him, but you'll only make him hate you eventually. Your best bet is to be supportive and help him however you can'
Nekira Sudacne: "He already knows who's doing it"
Nekira Sudacne: "He just wants them to stop"
agilbxr: "then he needs to stop them. What's wrong with that?"
Nekira Sudacne: "It'd involve leaving to go places and do things"
agilbxr: *rolls her eyes* "Aliza, that is life. Just because you don't seem to have any ambition other than fucking everyone you can find, doesn't mean that anyone else is like that
agilbxr: "
Nekira Sudacne: "Yes, the problem is Ringo Used to be like me. Now he's not" *sighs*
agilbxr: "nothing stays the same Aliza"
Nekira Sudacne: "It did until you came to town"
agilbxr: *sighs* "i had nothing to do with it, it would have happened anyway"
Nekira Sudacne: "Not if he hadn't gone out trying to get the Red River Boys"
Nekira Sudacne: "Which he wouldn't have if it wasn't for Heather"
agilbxr: "I had nothing to do with that"
Nekira Sudacne: "I know" she sighs
agilbxr: "but the hunting of the red river boys just sped things along. The people trying to kill off Ringo's people would have found him eventually"
Nekira Sudacne: "And we could have delt with that" *shrugs*
agilbxr: *shakes her head* "not without our help"
Nekira Sudacne: "What makes you think that?"
agilbxr: "you could have gone after Ringo on your own? In that alternate universe? Silvie wouldn't have gotten anyone there without help. And I don't know how many mages in the area powerful enough to give enough energy to make those portals"
Nekira Sudacne: "I was more refering to the fact that if we wern't doing stupid missions,he wouldn't have been captured at all"
agilbxr: *shakes her head* "you are smarter than that. They would have come and found him here, or just had him outright killed"
Nekira Sudacne: "So we can just go somewhere they can't find us"
agilbxr: *just looks at her*
Nekira Sudacne: *looks back* "We could go to Psyscape. They can sense anything coming a mile away"
agilbxr: "uh huh. I'd guess they could find you wherever you go"
Nekira Sudacne: "Well if they're that all powerful what can we do about it anyway?"
agilbxr: "we aren't powerless, especially now that Ringo is willing to fight. We can learn about them, and then stop them"
Nekira Sudacne: "If we can do that, can't we just fight them off indefinatly?'
agilbxr: "there is a good choice. Living while having to look over your shoulder all the time, waiting for the next attack. Why would you want to be a sitting duck?"
Nekira Sudacne: "I don't wnat to have to fight htem at all. it took them fourty years to track him down now. We can just move every few decades..." *sighs looking increasingly less convinced*
agilbxr: "uh huh"
agilbxr: "yeah, cause someone like you and Ringo are so discreet in your choice of lifestyles"
Nekira Sudacne: "Well we'll loose the lifestyle anyway if we go to do soemthing about it"
agilbxr: "that's what you are doing now"
Nekira Sudacne: "No, i'm trying to maintain it."
agilbxr: "ok, fine. That's what Ringo is trying to do now
agilbxr: "
Nekira Sudacne: *sighs* "ANd you expect me to be happy about ANY o fthis?"
agilbxr: "happy? No. But you can accept it and help him. Then, when you win your war, you can live your lives however you wish"
Nekira Sudacne: "Or we loose and die horribly"
agilbxr: *shrugs* "there is nothing to fear in death"
Nekira Sudacne: *looks at her like she sprouted another head*
agilbxr: "Aliza, death is just another step we take. We know there are gods and afterlives. What is to fear about going to an afterlife?"
Nekira Sudacne: "The fact that it's probablly going to suck and not be anything like what I'd like to be?"
agilbxr: *laughs, loudly* "oh my. You do need some educating, don't you. Aliza, I have a book in my room describing the afterlife for followers of Freya. Please, borrow it and read it"
Nekira Sudacne: "Uhhh...sure I guess"
agilbxr: "it will be enlightening reading, I assure you"
Nekira Sudacne: "Okay then" *dosn't seem convinced*
agilbxr: *smiles* "you will see, I promise"
Nekira Sudacne: "Anything else you'd like to say?
agilbxr: "you're the one that called this meeting"
Nekira Sudacne: *Grins* "I mostly covered it. just one question, how will you recruit if not buy slaves?"
agilbxr: "word of mouth, advertise, there are many ways to recruit"
Nekira Sudacne: *chuckles* "Well I suggest you and Jeff brainstorm. I was just going to buy some slaves"
agilbxr: "we can do that "
Nekira Sudacne: "That works"
