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Post by sawg138 on Jul 13, 2006 10:57:18 GMT -5
Somehow Marc is the moral compass, Carol is the heart, and Mick is the brains. What is up with that? And how is the moral compass banging the heart?
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Post by Nekira Sudacne on Jul 13, 2006 11:01:26 GMT -5
Very well, i'd imagine
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 13, 2006 11:03:43 GMT -5
Well, she did enjoy herself. But the moral compass has a girlfriend but is also shagging the priestess. Do most moral compasses sleep around?
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mrc0006
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Post by mrc0006 on Jul 13, 2006 11:57:38 GMT -5
The Moral Compass obviously has a little swagga to'm then, doesn't he?
Oh, and Jeremy is chopped liver ;D
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 13, 2006 12:47:59 GMT -5
Jeremy is the pretty, efiminate guy.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 13, 2006 13:06:47 GMT -5
Other roles Marc - tank/beefcake Morgan - cheesecake Jeremy - cheesecake/hunk/mad scientist Mick - jerk/tank
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mrc0006
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Post by mrc0006 on Jul 13, 2006 17:49:04 GMT -5
I can live with that.
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Post by Nekira Sudacne on Jul 13, 2006 21:35:37 GMT -5
Other roles Marc - tank/beefcake Morgan - cheesecake Jeremy - cheesecake/hunk/mad scientist Mick - jerk/tank and ni jun?
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 13, 2006 21:47:58 GMT -5
Other roles Marc - tank/beefcake Morgan - cheesecake Jeremy - cheesecake/hunk/mad scientist Mick - jerk/tank and ni jun? Who cares?
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Post by Flip on Jul 13, 2006 23:23:16 GMT -5
how is marcus the moral compass anyway? i don't recall him yelling about anything except loyalty... there's a lot more to being moral than that, let alone guiding the group to morality, if anyone's the moral compass i'd give that role to carol. who more or less guides us by example of what a good go-getter should be like. she realizes the group isn't unified, but shouting about it only decreases morale of the group further and making it less unified, and whenever she's asked to do something, she either does it, or comes up with a good replacement idea.
as for the heart of the group, since neky has establised that we are far from your aevrage run of the gun hero group that attempts to do good things in good ways, and are actually more 'anti-heroes' than anything else, a combination of marcus and morgan is probably better described as the heart of the group. (his constant complaining about how the group doesn't get along, and her constant nagging of him giving them another shot, tends to be the glue that holds one half of the group to the other) {the half that mostly hangs at susan's crib, and the other half that tends to hang out at mick's}
Ni Jun is easily described as the secretive, selfish bitch of the group, that tends to use the group more as a tool than an actualy group of people, that is meant to serve her own wants, more than do anything useful for others.
Mick is the fiery, assholish always shouting kid, that somehow became the impromptu leader that nobody likes, but everyone seems to listen to, whether his ideas are good or not. (that have twice now lead him to quite close to his own death... which may be the reason why people like his ideas...)
Ruby is the muscle, that sometimes gets put to work, but most often operates best as a doorstop.
Jeremy is the wide eyed rookie/genius, with the tech and computer skills we so desperately needed
at least that's how i saw the world.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 7:18:06 GMT -5
Marcus takes action based on what is right, nothing else. Carol hasn't done much more than gone along until now. And where do Marc and Morgan fit in? They live at Susan's but spend a lot of time with Filly and Tike. I do agree on Ni Jun though.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 7:22:55 GMT -5
'his' version of 'right'. which, by funny chance is not what everyone else considers right all the time.
but by being the only two that hang out at both mick's and susan's, marcus and morgan act like the glue.
and by 'just going along' as you put it, is a good example of working together.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 8:25:51 GMT -5
And Carol was the only one who went along, making her a doormat, not glue. There wasn't any reciprocation.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 9:21:42 GMT -5
i never said she was. the glue would be the heart. i said that was marcus and morgan. i consider her the person the rest of us should strive to be more like. doing what needs to be done whether ordered or not, putting herself at great risk trying to save a huge amount of the tin men, or being quick to follow orders when she feels they're the right thing we should do.
she tends to show others the principles of freindship by doing things with everyone instead of arguing and debating about them, trampling over any sense of teamwork. honestly we have NO moral compass.
but between you three lie the spirit and heart.
my proof of this:
IF we had a moral compass of any sort. Mick would be a source of information, NOT the decider in what should be done next.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 9:32:44 GMT -5
Who initially got the group involved with the Tin Men? Who's doing anything out of genuine concern? marc and Carol are the only ones with higher motive than personal gain/survival.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 9:43:12 GMT -5
you really gotta stop thinking that getting us involved in the underworld is a morally correct thing to do.
marcus seems to fail to realize that the tin men are a gang of criminals that sell guns to 4 years olds if they have half a chance to do so. they'd love to deal in drugs if they could take over the other gangs markets in them, they'd love to take over the burglaries if they could out do the warlordfs at it, and they attempt it quite often, and for all concerned the tin men are more responsible for any of the major murders done in town cause they're the only one s able to do it on a professional level other than mercs that are in and around. not to mention they give the mercs the info and equipment to go in to do the murdering.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 10:02:14 GMT -5
As opposed to not working with a group capable of helping fight the Nightlords?
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 10:14:15 GMT -5
so the fact that mick got us connected with the warlords and the suits, and jeremy's supervisor makes us connected with the suits, makes us ALL moral compasses of the team huh?
despite the fact that all the gangs are the most long lived of the scum of the NGR. we couldn't be in with worse people, and you're proud of it... and calling marcus a moral guide for helping getting it started...
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 10:22:29 GMT -5
at the same time, i say don't mistake me and think that i'm saying it wasn't a smart thing to do, it was, mick was planning about the same.
just at the same time, don't think it was the morrally correct thing to do either. the morally correct thing to do is arrest the majority of all of them and put them behind bars.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 10:44:03 GMT -5
at the same time, i say don't mistake me and think that i'm saying it wasn't a smart thing to do, it was, mick was planning about the same. just at the same time, don't think it was the morrally correct thing to do either. the morally correct thing to do is arrest the majority of all of them and put them behind bars. In jail where they are vulnerable to the Nightlords? No, Marc is about to start addressing that problem, probably with Carol's help.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 10:47:14 GMT -5
actually if they were in jail, they'd be no concern of the nightlords, cause the nightlords would have them out of their way.
by keeping them out of jail we're keeping a lesser evil in the way of a much larger evil
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mrc0006
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Post by mrc0006 on Jul 14, 2006 10:50:26 GMT -5
God, why don't you two just get a ROOM already!? ;D
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 10:51:31 GMT -5
You really think the Nightlords aren't using the jails for anything? They control the police, wouldn't the jails be a logical companion to that? Use the cops as cover to remove someone then let them disappear into the jails and come out a doppleganger, if at all.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 10:51:42 GMT -5
cuase the cheap skate refuses to pay for one!
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 10:53:41 GMT -5
the most that the jails are being used for when it comes to dopplegangers is putting spies among the gangs. spies among the gangs are useless if the whole gang is behind bars.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 10:56:30 GMT -5
But replacing the gang is useful.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 11:02:40 GMT -5
But replacing the gang is useful. indeed, and looking into who the jails are letting out prematurely is a very good idea. it'll help us find those nasty spies that keep us from being able to spread word among the gang. but replacing the gang that they just tried to erase completely is counterproductive
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 13:00:09 GMT -5
But replacing the gang is useful. indeed, and looking into who the jails are letting out prematurely is a very good idea. it'll help us find those nasty spies that keep us from being able to spread word among the gang. but replacing the gang that they just tried to erase completely is counterproductive How? If you can't wipe them out, convert them.
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Post by Flip on Jul 14, 2006 15:35:11 GMT -5
i never argued that point, i'm just going by the thought that is seems like the opposite of what they just attempted to do.
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Post by sawg138 on Jul 14, 2006 20:52:31 GMT -5
Always have a back up plan.
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